VP debate
I think this was disappointing to everyone who was expecting the devastation that we saw last Thursday night. Cheney was relaxed and articulate – a far cry from his boss’s demeanor! He did not completely lose it, as he has in the past, and he tried to down play some of his more outrageous quotes – though he still had a few here! Edwards did not have the command that Kerry had and he flat-out screwed up a few times, but he still held his own and made a number of solid points. Here’s a few of my personal highlights:
1) Cheney (rightfully) having no defense of Bush’s call for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriages. Obviously, if he had tried to defend it, he would have been crucified, but the fact that even the VP believes that this is a bad idea should give the Prez pause, if he ever listened to anyone.
2) The mind-boggling lack of comprehension of the “global test” quote of Kerry’s. People, this is not a difficult concept! We are not talking about rocket science! Even the moderator couldn’t seem to grasp this simple idea!
First of all, he clearly said that he would never let another country veto any of our actions. Secondly, he was speaking of a hypothetical pre-emptive type of action and all he said was that before he would take action, he would consider how this action would make us look in the world view. He did not say that he would even let this view direct his action, but that it is something that we must consider. Bush has seemingly never considered this and we have a terrible reputation in the world right now.
I even saw a report where Bush & Saddam were tied for the biggest world threats! It doesn’t take a genius to see that we need a change!
3) Cheney actually tried to include Iraqi casualties in the figures so that it would not look like America has carried 90% of the casualties there! What logic! Does any more even need to be said about this insane thought process?
He was correct in the fact that we have not yet spent 200 billion dollars there, we have “only” spent 120 billion. The other 80 billion is already allocated to spend there, though!
4) Cheney did flat-out lie when he said that he never tried to tie Saddam with al Quada and 9-11. No one could possibly let that one go!
5) Cheney actually used Zell Miller as an example of an unsatisfied Democrat! I thought that the Republicans were all trying to distance themselves as far as possible from a lunatic who challenged someone to a duel for simply asking a question about his speech! This is not someone I would want to be associated with!
This is just what has stuck with me after sleeping on it. Yes, Edwards should have been much stronger, but he did hold his own. Kerry will once again have to kick butt this Friday, though, to keep up the momentum!
1) Cheney (rightfully) having no defense of Bush’s call for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriages. Obviously, if he had tried to defend it, he would have been crucified, but the fact that even the VP believes that this is a bad idea should give the Prez pause, if he ever listened to anyone.
2) The mind-boggling lack of comprehension of the “global test” quote of Kerry’s. People, this is not a difficult concept! We are not talking about rocket science! Even the moderator couldn’t seem to grasp this simple idea!
First of all, he clearly said that he would never let another country veto any of our actions. Secondly, he was speaking of a hypothetical pre-emptive type of action and all he said was that before he would take action, he would consider how this action would make us look in the world view. He did not say that he would even let this view direct his action, but that it is something that we must consider. Bush has seemingly never considered this and we have a terrible reputation in the world right now.
I even saw a report where Bush & Saddam were tied for the biggest world threats! It doesn’t take a genius to see that we need a change!
3) Cheney actually tried to include Iraqi casualties in the figures so that it would not look like America has carried 90% of the casualties there! What logic! Does any more even need to be said about this insane thought process?
He was correct in the fact that we have not yet spent 200 billion dollars there, we have “only” spent 120 billion. The other 80 billion is already allocated to spend there, though!
4) Cheney did flat-out lie when he said that he never tried to tie Saddam with al Quada and 9-11. No one could possibly let that one go!
5) Cheney actually used Zell Miller as an example of an unsatisfied Democrat! I thought that the Republicans were all trying to distance themselves as far as possible from a lunatic who challenged someone to a duel for simply asking a question about his speech! This is not someone I would want to be associated with!
This is just what has stuck with me after sleeping on it. Yes, Edwards should have been much stronger, but he did hold his own. Kerry will once again have to kick butt this Friday, though, to keep up the momentum!
posted by rich at 8:54 AM
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